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"Rainbow" (rainbeaux)
06/07/2015 at 11:52 • Filed to: None

I’d be hard-pressed to find the actual post, but a couple years ago I was actually brought to tears by insane transphobia on the front page. It’s a really touchy subject that’s very close to me personally. But anyway, I actually took a moment to glance at the comments of this article, and there was only one asshole and a shitload of support: !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! Pretty neat.

DISCUSSION (13)

djmt1 > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:07

Struggling to see the asshole. Some guy is now a gal, big whoop. It’s 2015, transgender people are a thing. What isn’t a thing, is countless numbers of young people losing their lives to make sure we have a better future. So I get the guy’s frustration that the news is being dominated by a sex change and a family defending their pedo son to the point where the D-Day anniversary came and went with barely a mention.

Rainbow > djmt1
06/07/2015 at 12:09

That’s how news has always worked. He’s right about that. But look at the way he defends himself and continues to bring Jenner down. He only brought her up so he could insult her.

Besides, there’s literally no reason we can’t respect multiple groups. You don’t have to ignore everyone else’s struggles to pay your respects to fallen soldiers.

djmt1 > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:12

OK, he is an arsehole. The Bruce thing is petty. You’d think after two years, I would be used to clicking all replies but nope.

yamahog > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:15

Of course as soon as you express your faith in humanity restored, here come the Oppo comments to tear it back down... :/

Rainbow > yamahog
06/07/2015 at 12:17

Luckily it only seems like one guy has completely missed the point so far. Unless I haven’t seen all of the replies yet.

If I recall correctly, though, a couple established Oppo members joined in on the hating a few years back, so it’s still an all-around improvement.

yamahog > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:21

Yeaaaaa. Flagging this jerk and emailing mods. We’re on day 2 of Power Tour so I don’t have much time or patience for that nonsense.

scoob > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:25

I think another problem is that tons of young people nowadays (the ones that lead social media and all that) don’t care about history. Or education. How many likes they got, how many retweets they got, and how many reblogs they got is way more important. They probably think WWII is just another war, and war is useless because Vietnam and Iraq. These are the people that regurgitate “knowledge” and “information” they saw from other people on social media and therefore D-Day is irrelevant to them.

I’m not saying that guy isn’t an asshole, and that we should ignore Caitlyn, btw.

Sweet Trav > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:27

Being brave and Being a hero is not a fucking competition.

Is saving your fellow soldiers in a firefight heroic yes. Is being a popular icon that might give some bullied transgender kid some hope so that they kill themselves being heroic yes.

Plus it’s an all volunteer service here in the states, it’s a blood tax paid by the poor. From my experience most soldiers don’t want the glory or hero worship, they’d trade it all just forget what they saw and live a normal life.

As for the general comments about protecting us and our way of life. No foreign war since WWII has been about protecting America, it has been about furthering the American Imperialist policy and forcing capitalism and consumerism on foreign lands.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 12:52

I’m sure you’ve seen this before , but in the past few days I’ve seen a bunch of my family members losing their shit about Caitlyn Jenner. Many of them have posted the picture from Terry Coffey but ignored the update.

I think a lot of people don’t understand that people want to be taken on their own terms. Especially among the privileged in our society, there’s a vein of distrust toward anyone who doesn’t fit the mold and it takes a conscious effort to get past the tribalism that is ingrained in us.

TwinCharged - Is Now UK Opponaut > Rainbow
06/07/2015 at 13:04

My only problem with this Caitlyn Jenner business is that I’m afraid that her new TV show will all be about her and not about the trans community, just like how the Kardashians are selling their lives out for attention and reaping the rewards. I hope she’ll be like Laverne Cox, a high-profile figure proudly and actively advocating for the rights of transgender people. But my opinion’s been shaped by the kind of people I think the Kardashians are. Maybe that will change for Caitlyn.

I myself have also had experiences with the trans community, but for all the wrong reasons. I used to run an LGBT awareness group at school and when we started, we sent out a survey to the rest of the school asking them about their views on the LBGT community. Because we were a bit green at the time, we weren’t experts about the LBGT community and the survey was definitely lacking somewhat in the trans section. I admit, honestly and up front, that we engaged in a spot of accidental trans-erasure and by the time we realised, it was too late. Unfortunately, that seemed to anger one particular individual who felt very strongly about LGBT issues and directly accused us of transphobia and transmisogyny, which we flat-out denied as we were not engaging in systematic discrimination or hate of the trans community.

I’ll call this person X, because despite our requests, X never told us of their preferred sexuality or pronouns and was consistently vague about matters at hand. X then took this issue straight to the teachers. They didn’t know what to do and we didn’t know what to do, because nobody had ever dealt with such a vicious complaint against well, anybody. We tried to resolve it amongst ourselves, with X eventually writing an email in excess of 4,000 words long. We even invited X to join our awareness group, writing an open invitation to allow X to educate us about the trans community we were evidently so ignorant about. X said she would prefer to do her own awareness group on the trans community. This entire debacle culminated in my group running its own activities and left X to do their own thing, except nothing ever came out of X. Turns out, X was also known for being a PITA for many teachers, as they usually missed deadlines and forgot homework. The whole experience left me with a very bitter taste about the LGBT community, despite my being an LGBT individual.

Then after a while, I realised that X was just a bad apple of the bunch. An extremist would understatedly describe X and overall, the whole experience taught me that you should be very careful when you deal with the LGBT community. As with all revolutionary changes to society, there will always be extremists who make extremist demands. You can’t cater to all and sometimes, you honestly have to make the right choices.

PS9 > yamahog
06/07/2015 at 16:36

Power tour? Wait...oh fuck, Yamahog and Travis are moving on their plans to take over the midwest to right now! Goddamnit, they played us all! BRT! $kaycog! Gamecat! Alpha-tango-zulu-bad-dragon! This is not a drill! Repeat THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!

yamahog > PS9
06/07/2015 at 16:45

First the Midwest, then THE WORLD!! My operatives in New York and LA are at the ready.

aquila121 > Rainbow
06/09/2015 at 10:19

This is the first time that I’ve been encouraged by the general tone of responses on the FP in a while. Of course, I don’t follow comments much on there, at the moment. Thanks for calling this out.